Further information: Hi Quote is for 40ft high cube container door to door (excluding any import duty/taxes) 1 free hour loading in Norway then demurrage is charged at £56 per 30 minutes. UK unloading 3 free hours and then £40 per hour or part thereof. shipment to be declared as none hazardous Regards graham

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Question: Hi thank you for your bid, can you confirm the method of transport. We should have lifting capabilities at both ends of the shipping, but just checking do you have some also?

Thanks - (29-01-2015)

Response: Hi, Apologies I have been away from my desk travelling. Yes the mode of transport would be by 40 ft solid sided end loading container, road/sea road Trondheim to Destination London door to door. Our bid includes all sea freight costs and road costs. the only thing not covered is if the UK importer wished to appoint us to attend to UK import customs formalities we would be glad to do so the cost would be £15 Regards Graham - (30-01-2015)

Question: Hi,
sorry for the delay in getting back to you. What load times would you allow on either side. 4hrs?

Thanks

Max - (10-02-2015)

Response: Hi Max, I'll ask them in Norway, they are particularly strict, the usual is 1 hour loading and 2 hours discharge but I will revert regards Graham - (10-02-2015)

Question: Hi thanks for you renewed quote, but it looks like we need a 40ft HC after all...
The loading is the issue here though, we will need more time either end (4hrs would be ideal)
could you quote on the additional cost per loading hour (if possible)?

Best Regards
Max - (12-02-2015)

Response: No reply yet

Question: Hi thanks for you renewed quote, but it looks like we need a 40ft HC after all...
The loading is the issue here though, we will need more time either end (4hrs would be ideal)
could you quote on the additional cost per loading hour (if possible)?

Best Regards
Max - (12-02-2015)

Response: No reply yet

Question: Hi thanks for you renewed quote, but it looks like we need a 40ft HC after all...
The loading is the issue here though, we will need more time either end (4hrs would be ideal)
could you quote on the additional cost per loading hour (if possible)?

Best Regards
Max - (12-02-2015)

Response: Morning Max, No problem will do I will revert ASAP Regards Graham - (13-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham,

Thanks for all the info you have provided, I think we are nearly there!
How long will the haulage take? (assume we do it on Friday or Wednesday next week)
Also how much notice do you need?

Best Regards
Max

- (17-02-2015)

Response: Hi Max, No problem, these moves are never straightforward. Sailings are out of Drammen every Monday arriving Immingham Thursday. So taking into account customs clearance and through delivery to London I would say about a week from sailing to delivery with a couple of days at the front end for collection. We would need to know the customs status of the rig (I.E. is it a British item returning from Norway, is it Norwegian coming over here for a visit and then to be returned etc.) when we know the status we can ascertain if we can bring it in free of customs duty/VAT or whether we can claim temporary relief from import taxes under any temporary importation schemes. Regards graham - (17-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham,
ok Great, If we tried to get on Monday (23rd shipment) do you think this is possible? Assume the loading would happen on Friday?

The rig was built in Norway, although FluidOil Ltd, a Uk company purchased it about 1 year ago for ~5K which is the value of the rig, and we have been doing roughly 6 months work to it without moving it. The rig is now being brought into the UK.
Not sure where we stand with customs for this..
This is also roughly 4 barrels of crude oil, that will be included in the shipment, (secured and containerised), is there any different treatment for customs - do you need destination certificates for example?

we have a UK Eori for FluidOil Ltd.

if the above is all possible, we would like to take you on as the customs representatives for the quoted £15 and will accept the bid asap!
many Thanks
Max


- (17-02-2015)

Response: Morning Max, I'll check on a Friday load to see if we can meet Monday's sailing. The rig will be seen as a Norwegian and there is a preferential agreement in place between UK & Norway but the supplier will have to complete and present an EUR1 Movement Certificate for stamping by Norwegian Customs which is in turn presented to UK Customs for the rig to qualify for preferential duty/VAT treatment upon arrival. With regard to the crude, what is it's purpose? is it a sample? the best thing would be for us to get the Norwegian shipping side involved they could speak directly to the declared shipper in Norway to ascertain the exact procedure dependent upon the situation. The crude will be classed as hazardous cargo so the declared shipper will have to prepare a dangerous goods note for the sea shipping element of the movement They will also have to supply a TREM (Transport and Emergency) card which is required by law before the road haulage element of the shipment can begin. They will also probably be asked for a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) The container will also have to be labelled with the relevant transport stickers identifying the on board hazard this must quote the hazard class and the UN number. The shipment will also attract a hazardous shipment surcharge as the container will need special handling at the port and a detailed stowage on the ship. It all sounds a bit overboard for a couple of barrels of crude but these are the international regulations . All of this will have to be in place before collection can take place. I know that the UN Number for crude oil is 1267 and the IMDG hazard class is 3, I will apply now for a hazardous fright cost. I think that the pre- shipment requirements will be the controlling time factor rather than the simple logistics of placing the container, we need to get the shipping line office in Norway and the declared shipper talking to each other Regards Graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham just to confirm that was getting on the Monday 23rd of Feb shipment!?

Many Thanks

Max - (17-02-2015)

Response: No reply yet

Question: Graham. In order to accelerate this. I think we will leave the crude in Norway for now. We we may ship it as part of a seperate shipment later on.
For the Eur1 movement certificate, as we are shipping to ourselves we are presumably supplier and need to fill this in? I will see to obtain a form online.
Instead of crude. I have been advised that a few kilos of sand will be included though, this is olivine, a fairly standard sand. Will this require further forms or admin?
many thanks
Max
- (18-02-2015)

Response: Hi Max, Certainly the best decision to leave the crude if you can. Yes if you are to be the supplier/shipper and consignee you should complete the EUR1 but I note in an earlier correspondence that the value is around £5K. There is a simplified procedure for items just below this value which involves a declaration on your invoice rather than the full EUR1 preparation & presentation to customs. You can adjust the value to suit and I will give you the wording for your invoice. The sand is no problem, the thing to do is to ensure that it is listed on your invoice even if it just says 1 bag containing 2 kilos olivine/foundry sand no commercial value. You need to do this just in case the container is examined if there is anything there which is not described in the accompanying documentation it attracts attention from HMRC regards Graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham. Sounds good! Lets proceed this way.
Just checking that we should make mondays shipping doing it this way. Is the load on friday ok?
Best regards

- (18-02-2015)

Response: I'll put it through with a request for loading to see if it is possible, it may be tight but it depends how the vessel is running is 0900 hours OK or as close as I can get to it Regards graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham, that is fine 9 am or as close too. Let me know asap and ill accept quote.
Best Regards
Max
- (18-02-2015)

Response: Hi Max, All looks fine it is being processed now Regards graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: If the logistic works. Can you let me know what will be required in terms of accompanying documentation form our side?(just to recap it all)-

Following the thread, you've concluded we can bypass much of the standard procedure, which is great, leaving just the invoice with the wording you will provide. although who is the invoice from/to, what should it contain?

With the rig do you need specification of what it does, and its relevant parts (pipes, metalwork, skid, etc?) or would the invoice of when we purchased this rig suffice & include on top the few kilos of sand?

Thanks
Max
- (18-02-2015)

Response: Hi, As Fluid Oil are the current owners in Norway and they are also the new owners in the UK on the face of it I would prepare an invoice as an inter -company transfer. I assume that there is no financial consideration passing between Fluid Oil UK & Fluid Oil Norway for this actual movement but obviously there has been a payment made in the past to the original/previous owners. It is complicated to discuss in an open forum such as this I would need to know if fluid Oil are a legal/tax entity in Norway, we would need to discuss it but we will be able to cover it between us. For the description, again I would need a little more information but as a starter '' 1 x Pilot Oil Upgrading Rig - Used'' you may wish to cover the description further if it is for further refurbishment etc. but no breakdown of items which make up the piece is required. With regard to the sand just exactly as it is with a notional value of £5 or so. It would be wise if you could include the Customs HS numbers on your invoice but I can help with that regards Graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: If the logistic works. Can you let me know what will be required in terms of accompanying documentation form our side?(just to recap it all)-

Following the thread, you've concluded we can bypass much of the standard procedure, which is great, leaving just the invoice with the wording you will provide. although who is the invoice from/to, what should it contain?

With the rig do you need specification of what it does, and its relevant parts (pipes, metalwork, skid, etc?) or would the invoice of when we purchased this rig suffice & include on top the few kilos of sand?

Thanks
Max
- (18-02-2015)

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Question: If the logistic works. Can you let me know what will be required in terms of accompanying documentation form our side?(just to recap it all)-

Following the thread, you've concluded we can bypass much of the standard procedure, which is great, leaving just the invoice with the wording you will provide. although who is the invoice from/to, what should it contain?

With the rig do you need specification of what it does, and its relevant parts (pipes, metalwork, skid, etc?) or would the invoice of when we purchased this rig suffice & include on top the few kilos of sand?

Thanks
Max
- (18-02-2015)

Response: Hi Max, On the logistics side we are just checking the train space and times as the first leg is road to train in Trondheim to Drammen Port. The lines Norwegian office are asking for a local telephone number in Norway in order to make contact. if you are happy you can accept the quote with delivery quote compare & we can talk directly. If for any reason it can't go ahead we advise them and the payment to them is refunded. If you are happy to wait until we get further news from Norway on the train then no problem. We will need to discuss if any sales tax/VAT has been accounted for anywhere within the earlier transactions to ensure your obligations to HMRC for VAT accounting are correct Regards Graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: Great - thanks, yes probably best to arrange off the open forum.
Can I accept the quote on the basis of the timings discussed? - (18-02-2015)

Response: Hi, Just sent a message which crossed yes it should be OK but the site's refund policy covers if anything breaks down dur to timing etc. regards graham - (18-02-2015)

Question: Hi Graham. Does the quote include any insurance?
Best regards
Max - (18-02-2015)

Response: Morning Max, Yes there is a limited legal requirement insurance in place but I'll check the line's full terms. There is a train available which meets the vessel, the line can't find any reference for Fluid Oil in Norway and they wish to speak directly at the Norwegian end to clarify some points on loading such as are you OK loading the container via the back end whilst on trailer Regards Graham - (19-02-2015)

Question: Morning Graham.

there is no FLuidOil Norway we merely had the rig at the research institute premises. they are picking up from Sintef Institute. The contact is Jørn Bakken,

I don't think the loading will be an issue as forklift present (at both end of the loading) and all is on pallets, but best to check with Jorn.

Would be great if you could let me know the terms of insurance,
Many Thanks

Max

- (19-02-2015)

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